The frontman said that artists had no way to limit the ticketing giant's fees but his band had declined to participate in the 'greedy scam' of dynamic ...
“Shaped by the deaths of several members of Smith’s family, Songs of a Lost World threatens to be a bleak record … The band previewed material from the album on a run of UK dates in December. The Cure are expected to return with Songs of a Lost World, their 14th studio album, later this year. He continued: “We didn’t agree to the ‘dynamic pricing’/‘price surging’/‘platinum ticket’ thing … The band purposefully kept ticket costs affordable, with some as low as $20 (£16). If I get anything coherent by way of an answer I will let you all know.”
When The Cure announced their 2023 US tour, they promised fans they'd worked hard to keep the ticket prices low. "We want the tour to be affordable for all ...
They add up to hundreds of dollars a month." "In some cases, delivery fees may include a profit to Ticketmaster." - Service fee / Order processing fee: Added by Ticketmaster, to offset the costs of selling and shipping tickets. "We're tired of being played for suckers. It breaks down the cost of a ticket as follows: - Facility charge: Set by each individual venue, to help with operating costs. "In the meantime, I am compelled to note down my obvious recurring elephant in the room thought: That if no-one bought from scalpers, then..." Some of the more expensive seats cost $90 (£74.50) each, for example. why haven't you done more to reduce fees?" He responded that Ticketmaster does "not set ticket prices" and that "the majority" of added fees "go to the venue, not to Ticketmaster". "I have been asking how they are justified. But I hadn't!
The Cure's Robert Smith has said he is "sickened" by high Ticketmaster fees for the band's upcoming North American tour.
I WILL BE BACK IF I GET ANYTHING SERIOUS ON THE TM FEES… CITIES IN STATES THAT HAVE LAWS PROTECTING SCALPERS). Smith added: “I will be back if I get anything serious on the tm fees… IF I GET ANYTHING COHERENT BY WAY OF AN ANSWER I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW. He continued: “To be very clear: the artist has no way to limit them. Smith has since elaborated on the ticketing strategy, acknowledging “real problems” with the system and that it wasn’t “perfect”, but did clarify that the band had a “final say” over pricing.
TO BE VERY CLEAR: THE ARTIST HAS NO WAY TO LIMIT THEM,“ Robert Smith says of Ticketmaster service fees which in some cases appeared to be more than the ...
[attempts to keep their tickets off the secondary market](https://www.brooklynvegan.com/the-cures-robert-smith-talks-tickets-scalpers-more-i-realise-there-are-problems/). THEN..." "I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY'S TICKETMASTER 'FEES' DEBACLE," he wrote. CITIES IN STATES THAT HAVE LAWS PROTECTING SCALPERS). IF I GET ANYTHING COHERENT BY WAY OF AN ANSWER I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW." Or in the case of
The Cure frontman Robert Smith lashed out at Ticketmaster late Wednesday over fees the company is charging fans for tickets to the band's upcoming tour.
IF NO ARTISTS PARTICIPATED, IT WOULD CEASE TO EXIST.” It also said tickets would be non-transferable to crack down on resale and scalping. “I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY'S TICKETMASTER 'FEES' DEBACLE.
His comments follow reports of fees exceeding the prices of some tickets for The Cure's Shows Of A Lost World US tour.
"In the meantime, I am compelled to note down my obvious recurring elephant in the room thought… IN THE MEANTIME, I AM COMPELLED TO NOTE DOWN MY OBVIOUS RECURRING ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THOUGHT... I WILL BE BACK IF I GET ANYTHING SERIOUS ON THE TM FEES... I’ve done this SPECIFICALLY to improve the quality of my fans’ experience by doing it myself with my team who care as much about my fans as I do,” she continued. “And to those who didn’t get tickets, all I can say is that my hope is to provide more opportunities for us to all get together and sing these songs. "It’s truly amazing that 2.4 million people got tickets, but it really p*****s me off that a lot of them feel like they went through several bear attacks to get them. In response, Ticketmaster informed the band that “All tickets for The Cure Shows Of A Lost World Tour will be made available during tomorrow’s Verified Fan Sale”. "These tickets vary in price driven by demand from fans, similar to airline tickets and hotel rooms," it has previously stated on listings for a Harry Styles tour. The concept of dynamic pricing has been previously defined by Ticketmaster as based on demand. IT IS A GREEDY SCAM - AND ALL ARTISTS HAVE THE CHOICE NOT TO PARTICIPATE... IF NO ARTISTS PARTICIPATED, IT WOULD CEASE TO EXIST X https://t.co/Kj7hjkRGn1 “I am as sickened as you all are by today’s Ticketmaster ‘Fees’ debacle,”’ Smith wrote on his Twitter account.
The Cure fans are mad at Ticketmaster fees and so is Robert Smith, who also took aim at scalpers.
I WILL BE BACK IF I GET ANYTHING SERIOUS ON THE TM FEES… IF I GET ANYTHING COHERENT BY WAY OF AN ANSWER I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW. In the first of his tweets shared last night (March 15), Smith wrote, “I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY’S TICKETMASTER ‘FEES’ DEBACLE.
The Cure's Robert Smith said he was 'sickened' to see hefty fees added to prices for the group's tour, adding to the criticism around Ticketmaster.
[Live Nation, which has posted record earnings](https://variety.com/2023/music/news/live-nation-2022-year-end-results-launches-fair-ticketing-act-1235533747/) since the pandemic lifted and projects even higher profits for 2023, has launched what it calls the “ [FAIR Ticketing Act](https://variety.com/2023/music/news/live-nation-2022-year-end-results-launches-fair-ticketing-act-1235533747/),” the main tenets state that “artists should decide resale rules,” which would be an effort to allow artists to take the lead in preventing exploitative prices on the secondary market; “make it illegal to sell speculative tickets,” addressing scalpers’ habit of tricking fans into buying tickets that do not yet exist; “expand the BOTS Act,” to combat the widespread use of ticket-buying bots on the secondary market; “crack down on resale sites that are safe havens for scalpers,” which would force secondary-market sites to police the activity on their platforms more aggressively; and “mandate all-in-pricing nationally,” which would address the processing and other fees that often are not revealed until very late in the sale process. [Live Nation CFO Joe Berchtold appeared before a highly critical Senate committee](https://variety.com/2023/music/news/congress-sentate-committee-hearing-taylor-swift-ticketmaster-live-nation-1235501279/) in January, although that hearing largely amounted to an airing of grievances and posturing for constituents by certain senators. It is a greedy scam – and all artists have the choice not to participate… [Ticketmaster](https://variety.com/t/ticketmaster/) ‘Fees’ debacle,”’ Smith wrote in part of a [ long string of all-caps Tweets](https://twitter.com/RobertSmith?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor). “TM have just told me ‘all tickets for the Cure shows of a Lost World tour will be made available during tomorrow’s Verified Fan sale,’” he wrote. “All the ‘secondary ticket market’ sites showing insanely price Cure tickets are a con,” he wrote on March 13.
“I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY'S TICKETMASTER 'FEES' DEBACLE,” Smith tweeted. “TO BE VERY CLEAR: THE ARTIST HAS NO WAY TO LIMIT THEM. I HAVE BEEN ...
“I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY’S TICKETMASTER ‘FEES’ DEBACLE,” Smith tweeted. I WILL BE BACK IF I GET ANYTHING SERIOUS ON THE TM FEES… Then, in a series of tweets, he [acknowledged some problems](https://www.stereogum.com/2216944/robert-smith-acknowledges-problems-with-the-cures-us-ticketing-strategy/news/) with that strategy, mainly that it’s extremely difficult for many fans to actually acquire access to the ticket sale.
Comme vous l'êtes tous, je suis dégoûté par le fiasco des frais de Ticketmaster», a écrit Robert Smith.
Ce faisant, les détenteurs de billets conservent le droit de revendre leurs billets, mais seulement au prix payé initialement. Selon Robert Smith, l’artiste ne peut empêcher l’ajout de ces frais. Le chanteur du groupe The Cure, Robert Smith, est en colère contre Ticketmaster à cause des frais que le géant mondial de la vente de billets a ajoutés au prix des places des concerts de la tournée de la formation britannique.
After acknowledging the flaws in their strategy when tickets for the Cure's North American tour — which they're hoping to keep "affordable f...
I WILL BE BACK IF I GET ANYTHING SERIOUS ON THE TM FEES... X— ROBERT SMITH (@RobertSmith) I HAVE BEEN TOLD: StubHub has pulled listings in all markets except NY, Chicago, Denver (IE. IF I GET ANYTHING COHERENT BY WAY OF AN ANSWER I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW. I have been asking how they are justified." I will be back if I get anything serious on the TM fees... I AM AS SICKENED AS YOU ALL ARE BY TODAY'S TICKETMASTER 'FEES' DEBACLE. I HAVE BEEN ASKING HOW THEY ARE JUSTIFIED. In the meantime, I am compelled to note down my obvious recurring elephant in the room thought... If I get anything coherent by way of an answer I will let you all know. I have been told: StubHub has pulled listings in all markets except NY, Chicago, Denver (i.e. "To be very clear: the artist has no way to limit them.
The Cure tried to keep prices low for shows on its upcoming tour. But Ticketmaster fees cost more than the tickets.
Smith called the practice a [“greedy scam.”](https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1636073365373956100) I have been asking how they are justified.” What had been an $80 total for four tickets quickly ballooned to a total charge of $172. [Swift fans were left empty handed after waiting for hours for tickets](https://www.boston.com/culture/music/2023/01/31/taylor-swift-ticketmaster-senate-hearing-boston-reactions-gillette-stadium/) in November for the superstar’s upcoming “Eras Tour.” ( [Swift is set to play Gillette Stadium for three nights in May](https://www.boston.com/things-to-do/concerts/taylor-swift-eras-tour-gillette-stadium-tickets/).) “I am as sickened as you all are by today’s Ticketmaster ‘fees’ debacle,” Smith wrote in a tweet. [Ticketmaster executives were questioned at a Senate hearing in January ](https://www.boston.com/culture/entertainment/2023/01/24/senators-grill-ticketmaster-after-taylor-swift-fiasco/)about the company’s dominance and control over the live music industry. “We want the tour to be affordable for all fans, and we have a very wide (and we think very fair) range of pricing at every show,” the band wrote in [“verified fan” system](https://www.ticketmaster.pl/feature/verified-fan/?language=en-us) — where fans pre-register for a chance to be given a code to access ticket sales — would help fight against scalpers. [tweet](https://twitter.com/RobertSmith/status/1635818746190102530) Tuesday, said the band did not agree to [Ticketmaster’s controversial “dynamic pricing” or “price surging” model](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2022/08/17/springsteen-ticketmaster-dynamic-pricing-infuriates-music-fans/10310415002/), which has been responsible for driving ticket prices for artists like Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen into the thousands. [the Xfinity Center in Mansfield on June 18](https://concerts.livenation.com/the-cure-mansfield-massachusetts-06-18-2023/event/01005E4A9DEA368D?_gl=1*y0uqak*_ga*NDk1NDI2MzY1LjE2Nzg5NzU4NDg.*_ga_H1KKSGW33X*MTY3ODk3NTg1MC4xLjAuMTY3ODk3NTg1MC42MC4wLjA.&_ga=2.173611171.1611490693.1678975848-495426365.1678975848) — ended up paying more in “service,” “facility,” and “order processing” fees than they did for the actual tickets. Stay up to date on all the latest news from Boston.com [charging fans sky-high prices](https://www.boston.com/community/readers-say/hundreds-or-thousands-for-concert-tickets-no-thanks-say-irked-boston-com-readers/) in the past year, fans weren’t grumbling about ticket prices this time around — rather, it was those extra fees tacked on at the end of the transaction.